While the Canadian aerospace sector is very unlikely to get anywhere near the US in size, the past few weeks demonstrated that things are changing in ways nobody could have predicted and a little self-sufficiency is probably smart.
Canada still makes airplanes through companies like Bombardier and De Havilland Canada, though for hi-tech military airplanes like F-35 they have to rely on everyone else. And by everyone else, it’s basically US companies.
It’s a classic case of how management can bugger anything into oblivion, no matter how good the product is.
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But long story short, the Canadian government and the Avro management ended up playing a game of chicken in an effort to retain the Arrow—and that ended up with the government shuttering the program and led to Avro putting all of its employees (as well as those in the supply chain) out of work because of how sudden it was. Many of their engineers migrated down south to work at NASA and elsewhere, so it was impossible to rebuild the institution again without spending money Canada simply do not have.
They did, for a bit.
The Arrow was a Mach 2+ interceptor meant to defend Canada (and the US by extension) from Soviet nuclear bombers. It was a fairly advanced designed for the time (1950s) and had serious potential, on top of looking absolutely sexy.
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I met a narc last year, everything seemed to good to be true. Love bombing, always texting calling and taking me on dates. Everything changed when someone warned me about him out in public in front of him and who he is. This caused a conflict with us and the love bombing seized.
he would tell me that everything is okay and i can come and talk. He would set a time limit on me and kick me out after that.
he would then text me like everything was fine and we hung out again and after that he completely ghosted me for one week. He came back and texted me a week later laughing about the ghosting and acting like nothing had happened.
he continued to text me ( not like in the beginning) make plans with me, then on the day of the plans he would just ghost me. One day he would act interested the next silence.
i contacted him a month later and he acted like nothing happened. He was on a vacation and sent me a picture of another woman ( someone he allegedly met on the trip) to strike a reaction but i never gave him one. After the trip he came to my place and was extremely rude, accusing me of going on dates with a bunch of men. The next day he accused me of being an alcoholic and that he wanted nothing to do with me but said well maybe we can be "friends" then ghosted me
i assumed at this point it was over and i would never hear from him again. He contacted me on the holiday a month later acting like everything was great. We ended up hanging out a month or so later and when we hung out it went well, i thought things were going in the right direction.
after we hung out.. silence. I would try to text him and if he replied it would be very short then he just stopped replying. He ghosted me for almost three months. I thought he was done this time and of course he popped up again like nothing happened. At this point i was getting sick of if so i questioned him as to why he dissapeared and always does this. Of course he had some sob story about a injury and family member dying of cancer. I felt pity for him and he gave me an apology.. so i took him back stupidly.
things seemed to be going smooth for a couple months, of course until his family member died and his injury got better he never contacted me and was distant. Menawhile, i was there for him during the difficult time for him. He lied to me about the funeral and never wanted to chat. I was chasing him and he would always claim nothing was wrong but when i said i thought he used me when he was down he could not handle it and would always tell me he didnt care and to go away. I would get so upset i would try texting him to work it out he would barelt respond and if he did he would not be nice about it.
we did hang out a couple times after that, he would ignore me after. One day i was like hey i think you are seeing someone else, and i was like well ixam seeing someone so no problem if you are he said " buy bye good luck with your new guy stop contacting me" i was devastated and tried to get into contact with him for weeks then i just gave up and accepted it was over. He ended up contacting me a month later acting like everything was fine. He wanted to go out and have drinks i told him i would. He and i both seemed to have a great time. He ends up ignoring me again. I kept texting him trying to figure out what was wrong. He kept saying everything was fine and i said ok can we hang out again? He said maybe i was like why? He just kept saying maybe …
our last conversation we had… i said what is wrong ? He said nothing is wrong everything is fine. I asked him why he keeps saying maybe. He said " maybe but i dont want to see you right now" i said why? He saix " im just not feeling it, if i wanted to date i would" i said why did you contact me less then a week ago wanting to go out? He said i didnt.. even though he did. So i said should i just move on or what? He said whatever you want to do. So i said that he was really confusing me and asked him if he had anything more to say before i move on? My messages were turning green so i panicked he blocked me and reacted irrationally. I said " omg did you block me? My messages are not going through. Even texted him on my work phone asking what was up. And called him twice ( please dont judge me i know it is pathetic i never was this type of girl before him) so he replied and said " Ok I'll block you now" then immedietly blocked me. He has never blocked me before since I have met him he will just ghost. Is this ths final discard aka " grand finale? Did i just push him too far?
this has upset me so much its hard to even function.
The US government was pressuring the Canadian government into buying Boeing BOMARC anti-air missile systems instead, arguing that the missiles would be cheaper (and the Arrow wasn’t exactly cheap, especially since it didn’t have international customers). That does have its merits, although I could also argue that missiles are “one-shot” weapons while an interceptor can be assigned to do more than just shooting down unwanted airplanes.
However, what it didn’t do well was in the political dimension. At the time, there was a shift from nuclear airplane bombers to ICBMs, potentially rendering the Arrow and similar interceptors pointless (it did not, but it looked like it was going that way).
But it all came crashing down with the Avro Arrow program.
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On hindsight, perhaps what they should have done was what China did: Protect the local industry at all cost, regardless of the product. The Chinese government bought Chinese-made copies of Soviet airplanes and that let the industry mature even if they probably could have gotten something better elsewhere. Now China has a massive aviation industry that has already surpassed the Russians.
